Who is greatest striker ever in his prime?

toonmagic9 · 07-09-2007, 05:06 PM

it's the only real answer to the question pele is truly the greatest player ever to walk onto a football pitch

t3azn_u · 07-16-2007, 07:46 AM

my cuzin jason zeine got stabbed in StAlbans, It was on the news and on Fox news and on the Sun newspaper also the Herald Sun. Luckily hes olriite

toonmagic9 · 07-16-2007, 09:24 AM

whats that got to do with the question?

t3azn_u · 07-16-2007, 12:29 PM

F**KS your problem
dont be talkin 2 tatoo TJ like that, Ive never backed down to another man and if u ever come to sunshine and talk 2 me like that I promise I will put that nine-millimeter in your face and show u who DAT TURK TJ IS!!!! and Nikolai Valuev is my family friend so dats double trouble 4.o.u.r U

toonmagic9 · 07-16-2007, 04:01 PM

thats nice who do you think is the best ever striker

1NVDABO · 07-18-2007, 04:05 PM

HAMMERTIME · 07-19-2007, 02:00 PM

pele did score over 1000 goals but where did he play.. the answer is nowhere.. he would not have scored that many in euroupe with defenders that we have over here but in america where they r like the english 2 div he did... im not saying that he was not 1 of the best ever but he never proved it in the big time.. and b4 any1 says what about the world cup ronaldo has scored more...he is not even in the top 5 all time world cup scores and maybe even worst im not to sure but his has never scored more than 5 goals in any world cup.. with the most any 1 ever scored is 13 in 1 com and that is a french man

toonmagic9 · 07-19-2007, 02:06 PM

yes he may have done why do you think pele stayed in america, perhaps because when he was playing there wasn't the money in the game to pay the massive transfer fee that he would have cost, when you think about it it wsasn't till the late seventies that the first million pound player was brought, so i think that is a bit poor arguement esp when until recently brazils philosophy was you score 4 we'll score 5

goldenHuddlestone · 07-19-2007, 03:49 PM

jimmy greaves

HAMMERTIME · 07-19-2007, 08:19 PM

so u think he went to america for the football not the money when every other players came over to prove themselfs y did he stay in america

aisuru · 07-19-2007, 11:00 PM

there was money in the game, but it was at NY Cosmos, funded by Warner Communications. there was money to pay Pele $2M a year, plus Chinaglia, Carlos Alberto and Beckenbauer weren't exactly cheap.

toonmagic9 · 07-20-2007, 11:03 AM

i don't think he stayed there deliberately, but was he ever linked to a move to europe, if the answer is no why not as he was the best player around at that time.

aisuru · 07-20-2007, 12:56 PM

he had too good a life in the USA. he was a superstar, living a glamorous lifestyle. he was going to retire from Brazilian club football, when he got the offer to be paid several million dollars to go and play in the states. it was a retirement league for him, since he was coming to the end of his playing days.

1NVDABO · 07-20-2007, 03:32 PM

Puskas - Cause hes the only striker that I can think of that played for 2 National countrys.... Beat That! also with his first club he outscored his appearances which is very rare considering he had over 350appearances!!!!

goldenHuddlestone · 07-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Nobre played for Brazil and Turkey

phillipc2020 · 07-27-2007, 05:32 PM

i think it is probably ronaldo from brazil in his prime. if not for the injury that he had....now he is one the legend of world football. i still remember during 2006 world cup, scolari said that ronaldo will not be as good as he was in the past because of the injury. he maybe can be 70% as good as in the past but at 70%,he still can be the best striker in the world because he is such a talent.and i think scolari is damned right......now he still produce some wonderful stuff...scoring goals out of nothing

toonmagic9 · 07-27-2007, 06:52 PM

best out and out striker ever to grace the prem alan shearer it will take a very special person to beat his goal scoring record and i can't see anyone doing that for along time

HAMMERTIME · 07-28-2007, 06:11 AM

toonmagic9 · 07-28-2007, 03:42 PM

Why do so many people use ronaldo's injuries as an excuse as i have prob mentioned shearer had two career threatening knee injuries and had life threatening meningitis but thats never mentioned because he is a legend, frankly i'm sick of people saying yeah but ronaldo had a knee injury big deal

phillipc2020 · 07-28-2007, 06:31 PM

come one....alan shearear never won the champions league or world cup or world player of the year award in his life...ronaldo has won twice the world cup and champions league and 3 times world player of the year award...he can score goals out of nothing while alan shearer is just an old fashion british centre forward..yeah...shearer scores goals but so do nistelrooy,andy cole or even michael owen...but what distinguish ronaldo from the rest of the stikers is because he can score goals out of nothing while others need services from other to score goals.

alan shearer is the premiership all-time goal scorer just because he started his career in premiership.if nistelrooy or tezequet started their career in premier league, they too can also surplus the goal-scoring record of alan shearer..nothing special but ronaldo is special.

toonmagic9 · 07-29-2007, 10:30 AM

ronaldo is special because people make excuses for him, and obviously ronaldo has never played with any other creative player like maybe the brazillian national team, zidane, kaka, figo, so thatt arguement is rubbish all his career he has been surrounded by better players. he was good and i'm not disputing that but he's not great, romario was a great stiker and is better than ronaldo, eto is better than ronaldo. owen is better than ronaldo in fact there are so mant better stikers than ronaldo it's untrue, and hasn't kanu won the champs league with ajax and he isn't in the list

phillipc2020 · 07-29-2007, 11:25 AM

then i have to say that alan shearer has himself to blame by not joinning man utd but newcastle. cantona,andy cole,solsjkaer,yorke,sheringham,nistelrooy and now rooney are one of the top striker in their era because there are surrounded by great players who provide them services to score lot of goals.

maybe if shearer join man utd, he has a very good chance to win world player of the year and of course a lot more trophies to his name.unfortunately he join newcastle. maybe he won a lot of relegation battle than anything else. if i am him, i must be damn regret because he might be the greatest striker of all time in europe if he join man utd instead of newcastle.

Matt the Thrasher · 07-29-2007, 12:18 PM

I think when Shearer left Blackburn he wanted to go to Man Utd , but Blackburn refused to sell him to the team who were their main title rivals at the time.

Similar to the Heinze situation now with United refusing to sell him to Liverpool.

R_9-Ronaldo · 07-29-2007, 03:22 PM

Ronaldo is the best striker dont compare him to players like Owen who cant even score half as much goals as their appearances whilst Ronaldo maintains to score 80% of the time!

phillipc2020 · 07-29-2007, 03:26 PM

no...it is alan shearer who choose to join newscastle at that time because after retired, people always asked him whether you regret or not for choosing newscastle rather than man utd.he answer no but i think he is lying.

07-16-2007, 12:29 PM	#29 (permalink)
t3azn_u New Signing Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27 vCash: 500	F*KS your problem dont be talkin 2 tatoo TJ like that, Ive never backed down to another man and if u ever come to sunshine and talk 2 me like that I promise I will put that nine-millimeter in your face and show u who DAT TURK TJ IS!!!! and Nikolai Valuev is my family friend so dats double trouble 4.o.u.r U Last edited by t3azn_u : 07-16-2007 at 12:33 PM.*

07-19-2007, 02:00 PM	#32 (permalink)
HAMMERTIME Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 128 vCash: 500	pele did score over 1000 goals but where did he play.. the answer is nowhere.. he would not have scored that many in euroupe with defenders that we have over here but in america where they r like the english 2 div he did... im not saying that he was not 1 of the best ever but he never proved it in the big time.. and b4 any1 says what about the world cup ronaldo has scored more...he is not even in the top 5 all time world cup scores and maybe even worst im not to sure but his has never scored more than 5 goals in any world cup.. with the most any 1 ever scored is 13 in 1 com and that is a french man Last edited by HAMMERTIME : 07-19-2007 at 02:08 PM.

07-29-2007, 12:18 PM	#48 (permalink)
Matt the Thrasher Admin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Figueira da Foz ,Portugal Posts: 3,168 vCash: 379	I think when Shearer left Blackburn he wanted to go to Man Utd , but Blackburn refused to sell him to the team who were their main title rivals at the time. Similar to the Heinze situation now with United refusing to sell him to Liverpool. The boys of NYPD choir still singing Galway Bay.

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07-09-2007, 05:06 PM	#26 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 465	it's the only real answer to the question pele is truly the greatest player ever to walk onto a football pitch

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07-16-2007, 07:46 AM	#27 (permalink)
t3azn_u New Signing Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 27 vCash: 500	my cuzin jason zeine got stabbed in StAlbans, It was on the news and on Fox news and on the Sun newspaper also the Herald Sun. Luckily hes olriite

07-16-2007, 09:24 AM	#28 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 465	whats that got to do with the question?

07-16-2007, 04:01 PM	#30 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 465	thats nice who do you think is the best ever striker

07-18-2007, 04:05 PM	#31 (permalink)
1NVDABO First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 47 vCash: 500	me

07-19-2007, 02:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 465	yes he may have done why do you think pele stayed in america, perhaps because when he was playing there wasn't the money in the game to pay the massive transfer fee that he would have cost, when you think about it it wsasn't till the late seventies that the first million pound player was brought, so i think that is a bit poor arguement esp when until recently brazils philosophy was you score 4 we'll score 5

07-19-2007, 03:49 PM	#34 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,656 vCash: 480	jimmy greaves

07-19-2007, 08:19 PM	#35 (permalink)
HAMMERTIME Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 128 vCash: 500	so u think he went to america for the football not the money when every other players came over to prove themselfs y did he stay in america

07-19-2007, 11:00 PM	#36 (permalink)
aisuru Admin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: the Village Posts: 3,846 vCash: 726	there was money in the game, but it was at NY Cosmos, funded by Warner Communications. there was money to pay Pele $2M a year, plus Chinaglia, Carlos Alberto and Beckenbauer weren't exactly cheap.

07-20-2007, 11:03 AM	#37 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 465	i don't think he stayed there deliberately, but was he ever linked to a move to europe, if the answer is no why not as he was the best player around at that time.

07-20-2007, 12:56 PM	#38 (permalink)
aisuru Admin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: the Village Posts: 3,846 vCash: 726	he had too good a life in the USA. he was a superstar, living a glamorous lifestyle. he was going to retire from Brazilian club football, when he got the offer to be paid several million dollars to go and play in the states. it was a retirement league for him, since he was coming to the end of his playing days.

07-20-2007, 03:32 PM	#39 (permalink)
1NVDABO First Team Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 47 vCash: 500	Puskas - Cause hes the only striker that I can think of that played for 2 National countrys.... Beat That! also with his first club he outscored his appearances which is very rare considering he had over 350appearances!!!!

07-20-2007, 04:03 PM	#40 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,656 vCash: 480	Nobre played for Brazil and Turkey

07-27-2007, 05:32 PM	#41 (permalink)
phillipc2020 New Signing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 27 vCash: 500	i think it is probably ronaldo from brazil in his prime. if not for the injury that he had....now he is one the legend of world football. i still remember during 2006 world cup, scolari said that ronaldo will not be as good as he was in the past because of the injury. he maybe can be 70% as good as in the past but at 70%,he still can be the best striker in the world because he is such a talent.and i think scolari is damned right......now he still produce some wonderful stuff...scoring goals out of nothing

07-27-2007, 06:52 PM	#42 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 465	best out and out striker ever to grace the prem alan shearer it will take a very special person to beat his goal scoring record and i can't see anyone doing that for along time

07-28-2007, 06:11 AM	#43 (permalink)
HAMMERTIME Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 128 vCash: 500	true

07-28-2007, 03:42 PM	#44 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 465	Why do so many people use ronaldo's injuries as an excuse as i have prob mentioned shearer had two career threatening knee injuries and had life threatening meningitis but thats never mentioned because he is a legend, frankly i'm sick of people saying yeah but ronaldo had a knee injury big deal

07-28-2007, 06:31 PM	#45 (permalink)
phillipc2020 New Signing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 27 vCash: 500	come one....alan shearear never won the champions league or world cup or world player of the year award in his life...ronaldo has won twice the world cup and champions league and 3 times world player of the year award...he can score goals out of nothing while alan shearer is just an old fashion british centre forward..yeah...shearer scores goals but so do nistelrooy,andy cole or even michael owen...but what distinguish ronaldo from the rest of the stikers is because he can score goals out of nothing while others need services from other to score goals. alan shearer is the premiership all-time goal scorer just because he started his career in premiership.if nistelrooy or tezequet started their career in premier league, they too can also surplus the goal-scoring record of alan shearer..nothing special but ronaldo is special.

07-29-2007, 10:30 AM	#46 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645 vCash: 465	ronaldo is special because people make excuses for him, and obviously ronaldo has never played with any other creative player like maybe the brazillian national team, zidane, kaka, figo, so thatt arguement is rubbish all his career he has been surrounded by better players. he was good and i'm not disputing that but he's not great, romario was a great stiker and is better than ronaldo, eto is better than ronaldo. owen is better than ronaldo in fact there are so mant better stikers than ronaldo it's untrue, and hasn't kanu won the champs league with ajax and he isn't in the list

07-29-2007, 11:25 AM	#47 (permalink)
phillipc2020 New Signing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 27 vCash: 500	then i have to say that alan shearer has himself to blame by not joinning man utd but newcastle. cantona,andy cole,solsjkaer,yorke,sheringham,nistelrooy and now rooney are one of the top striker in their era because there are surrounded by great players who provide them services to score lot of goals. maybe if shearer join man utd, he has a very good chance to win world player of the year and of course a lot more trophies to his name.unfortunately he join newcastle. maybe he won a lot of relegation battle than anything else. if i am him, i must be damn regret because he might be the greatest striker of all time in europe if he join man utd instead of newcastle.

07-29-2007, 03:22 PM	#49 (permalink)
R_9-Ronaldo Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 415 vCash: 500	Ronaldo is the best striker dont compare him to players like Owen who cant even score half as much goals as their appearances whilst Ronaldo maintains to score 80% of the time!

07-29-2007, 03:26 PM	#50 (permalink)
phillipc2020 New Signing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 27 vCash: 500	no...it is alan shearer who choose to join newscastle at that time because after retired, people always asked him whether you regret or not for choosing newscastle rather than man utd.he answer no but i think he is lying.