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Old 07-29-2007, 03:56 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Alan shearer didnt have the abillty to beat defenders/create goals from nothing. The only reason R9 is elite is because back when he was at barca, You literally couldn't take your eyes off the TV for a split second or you will miss Ronaldo score/assist/get fouled/ do something interesting like go on a huge run from his half of the field to the other. Ronaldo on his day is the phenomeno! Why would Cantonna, Another truly great player consider another player a phenomenon/keepers nightmare if he though he wasn't elite? R9 you cant hold anything against him [in his prime] He done/won everything!
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:01 PM   #52 (permalink)
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then you are a fool shearer had one ambition left and that was to bring success to his beloved newcastle, and he succeded in part the only thing missing was a trophy, maybe if he had joined man u he would have won more but to him that was the easy option and he is one footballer who has never taken the easy way out, he was the last of the out and out english strikers, as a lot of them play better behind or alongside a centre forward, the same can't be said about ronaldo as he has always mopved to clubs where he knows he will win something, and also who did he win the champs league with because wasn't he ineligble for ac last season.
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:20 PM   #53 (permalink)
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why the clubs that ronaldo had joined always won trophy? it is because he improved the squads by his quality. lets them an example. in 2001, he single-handlely won the champions league semifinal against man utd for real madrid..that is why he won so many trophies..everywhere he goes, he score goals. not goals that feed by the winger or midfield...goals that he created by himself....it is what distingush him from alan shearer..shearer needs to be feed to score goals while ronaldo can create a magical moment and score a goals...that explain why ronaldo won so many trophies but none for alan shearer in newcastle..lets make it more simplier...if you ask all the top clubs in the world..who do they prefer, ronaldo or shearer..i believe most answers will be ronaldo..maybe mourinho will prefer shearer because he suit their long ball tactics
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:28 PM   #54 (permalink)
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the reason newcastle don't win trophies is nothing to do with the strikers it's because every manager we have ghad has ignored the fact that a decent def goes along way, and if ronaldo improves teams how come real madrid have only just won the spanish league,it took a pure goal scoring machine in van nistlerooy to win them the league not some overweight joke of a player who had been there for five to six years, cannavaro helped the def a bit but it was van nistlerooy who got them that title. if however ac milan go on to dominate italy and europe till he retires then i may change my opinion of him until that happens shearer is a better striker in his prime
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:34 PM   #55 (permalink)
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ronaldo have won spanish league once before nistelrooy came
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:42 PM   #56 (permalink)
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if thats so why haven't real dominated the league like they used to when they were buying all the greats, ronalso leaves they win the title don't have to be a genius to see why, if owen had been ghiven a decent chance then ronaldo would have been sold a lot earlier and real would havwe been able to challenge barca more
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:11 PM   #57 (permalink)
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the best striker in his prime is difficult to say, theres shearer, henry, ronaldo, pele.
Aside of all those if you look at technical ability my top striker would be Fowler without a doubt
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:58 PM   #58 (permalink)
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if thats so why haven't real dominated the league like they used to when they were buying all the greats, ronalso leaves they win the title don't have to be a genius to see why, if owen had been ghiven a decent chance then ronaldo would have been sold a lot earlier and real would havwe been able to challenge barca more
Thats crap Roanldo was abrely playing the year before it was capello that made them win the trophy
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:49 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Ronaldo did score 83goals in 160appearances at Real. Its supposed to be the worst time of his career(overweight, Negative media, Family issues) And still he manages to score 83goals in 5seasons! Stop trying to bring Ronaldo's glory down because theres no way you can contemplate a world-player of the year on triple occasions. And another thing, Why didn't Alan Shearer guide his team to a world-cup if he's as good as Ronaldo? Ronaldo was by far Brazils best player at 1998, And definately one of the best at 2002 scoring 8goals! I don't see Alan Shearer scoring 8goals for England. What is Ronaldo's Personal achievements, What is Shearers Personal achievements?..I rest my case
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:31 AM   #60 (permalink)
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ronaldo might of won more but then you could say andy cole and dwight yorke won more, i just think that ronaldo is carried an awful lot by his teammates, esp recently, when sir bobby discovered him for barca he was amazing and was prob my favourite striker, but then he moved to inter and got injured and then since then while his goal scoring record is second to none when you look at his actual perfomance is he always giving 100% nothat's why i think he isn't the best striker in the world in his prime, pele always gave 100% as did shearer as did bergkamp etc
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:58 AM   #61 (permalink)
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He might not give 100%, But it more interesting to watch him than pretty much another other striker in the world at the moment, He dribbles alot, Takes long shots, Everything you need of a striker, And especially because he has gained some of that speed and stamina he badly lacked for the last few seasons. watch out for R9 in next years champions league!!!
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:16 PM   #62 (permalink)
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we'll see but once again he isn't the star but a star among stars if he went to a club wherte he was the only big fish then i might have more respect for him
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:04 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Ronaldo had proven himself that he can score goals in dutch league,spanish league,italian league,champions league and at international scenes,not just a few goals but alot of spectacular goals. he had proven that he can score against the toughest defender or the most tactical team especially in italian league.

but shearer only proven that he can score goals in premier leagues whereas at that time,the premier teams is not good at defensive before mourinho and benitez come to premier league.

asides from ronaldo, henry and bergkamp if much more better than shearer coz they are highly technical gifted and provide alot of asissts.they also proven in international scenes. but u still have to remember,although they are so good but they still failed to make a impression in Italian League while Ronaldo can.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:14 PM   #64 (permalink)
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henry, pele, maradonna, george best, anyone out of them will do.


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Old 08-01-2007, 05:07 PM   #65 (permalink)
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this is ronaldo's first full season in italy i believe as he got injured and was then sold, please correct me if i'm wrong but i would say bergkamp, henry and zola are more exciting players and better players than ronaldo, while shearer never played abroad, doesn't mean that he isn't the best goal scorer of a generation, would you say raul is a worse than ronaldo because he has never played outside spain?
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:37 AM   #66 (permalink)
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he actually made 69appearances for Inter and scored 49goals so thats obviously more than 1season
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Old 08-02-2007, 01:58 PM   #67 (permalink)
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didn't know that, but still doesn't change my opinion of him if he does that for the rest of his career then i will agree with you
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:09 PM   #68 (permalink)
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well he has kept up something around that ratio his whole career! Just look it up
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:36 PM   #69 (permalink)
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zola was a god in his day
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:53 PM   #70 (permalink)
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to true a fine example of a footballer, him and bergkamp were prob the two best technically gifted players ever to grace the prem, still remeber bergkamp's flick round dabizas imo the best goal scored in the prem
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:03 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Its strange the players we remember as great were also great role models players like Fowler and Gazza have been irreparably ruined by their behaviour
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:33 PM   #72 (permalink)
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george best is the exception i feel as he all want that kind of lifestyle and have half the talent he had, but if you want role models you pick the best there is that don't get splashed all over the papers, because thats how we want all the future stars to behave and bring success to their clubs and hopefully england
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:46 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Hopefully Walcott will fit that description ey?
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:23 AM   #74 (permalink)
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I dont particually see him getting into any scraopes
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