[Stevens]

Is the North of England grim?

[Matt the Thrasher]

Some bits maybe ,but there are some very nice parts too same as anywhere else.

[R_9-Ronaldo]

All of England is grim lol. Come down to the down under which is much better than England

[Matt the Thrasher]

No thamks mate I don't want to live in a cultural desert

[Stevens]

Yes becuase people tend to have a lower quality of life overalll then people living in the South Of England.

The best places in england according to experts who know what they are talking about tend to be in the South of England while the worst places tend to be in North of England.

Hull in North england is allegedlly a dump!
Manchester the current the ASBO capaital of England allegedlly.

[R_9-Ronaldo]

Yeah well the average Melbournian makes atleast 60K a year thats way better than anywhere else, and no its not even close to a desert its more hi-tech than England and more homely than all of Europe together

[Matt the Thrasher]

Originally Posted by R_9-Ronaldo

Yeah well the average Melbournian makes atleast 60K a year thats way better than anywhere else, and no its not even close to a desert its more hi-tech than England and more homely than all of Europe together

[gibbelinho]

There's s*itholes all of over England and likewise decent places all over. Economic history of England tends to mean more of them in the North tho I would venture.

[h3adbang3r]

Grim up north? Well, that's what Southerners reckon but we have the friendliest people in England up North and we have proper scenery nearby with real hills and stuff, not just flat landscape!