England's mediocrity

Jedi Knight · 12-08-2006, 03:19 PM

is the England national team suuffering due to the amount of foreigners plying their trade in the EPL? last week of all the players that started premiership games, 40% were English. is this having a detremental affect on the national team or is it purely poor tactics etc.......?

sdrawrof · 12-10-2006, 06:57 AM

Its called media...England is a mediocre team...thats all.

goldenHuddlestone · 12-10-2006, 11:51 PM

id b intrested to hear the amount of home grown talent that starts in the other leauges 2

squid · 12-12-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenHuddlestone

id b intrested to hear the amount of home grown talent that starts in the other leauges 2

I think italy would have to be the benchmark here. they are the world champions, like it or not, and thier full squad is based in italy.

goldenHuddlestone · 12-12-2006, 07:28 PM

Id agree or possibly Germany

sdrawrof · 12-13-2006, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by squid

I think italy would have to be the benchmark here. they are the world champions, like it or not, and thier full squad is based in italy.

c-c-c-cannavaro.

Matt the Thrasher · 12-13-2006, 01:10 PM

I think in the last world cup only 2 countries had the entire squad based in their own country Italy & Saudi Arabia.

sdrawrof · 12-14-2006, 06:34 AM

togo?

squid · 12-15-2006, 03:04 AM

nah, togo had some players playing in europe. doesnt adebeayor play for togo? anyway it shows you that if you have the system to bring the players through and you give them thier chance your national team will benifit from this. The italians are testimont to this as much as i hate to admit it cause i hate the way they play.

goldenHuddlestone · 12-15-2006, 07:17 PM

Wow never really thought about that. Kudos to Italy.

Jedi Knight · 01-04-2007, 08:19 PM

England imo still don't have the right man in charge to help this squad reach their full potential. while i still don't think England have enough world class players to win a the world cup this squad with the right manager have a chance of reaching the Euro final

goldenHuddlestone · 01-04-2007, 10:46 PM

who, would you say, is the right man then

Worksop_Owl · 01-05-2007, 09:53 AM

SAM ALLARDYCE!!!! anyway englands youngsters are incredibly talented have u seen the under 21's startin line up?? WOW!

squid · 01-05-2007, 02:58 PM

i would agree with that one. if England got allardyce they would be more of a threat. if they had got O'niell however (god forbid), they could win the euro's.

Jedi Knight · 01-05-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenHuddlestone

who, would you say, is the right man then

it's not really for me to say as i don't give it too much though, although it more than apparent that McClaren isn't up to the job.
However. the media have built up English fans hopes of winning a major tourny which won't happen soon as i think the squad is mediocre

Joe · 01-05-2007, 04:37 PM

The majority of England's squad was based in England for the World Cup. If memory serves me correctly then only Beckham and Hargreaves are foreign based.

I do realise what you mean with foreigners in the game keeping English players out the team. However, the best way for players to improve is to learn from better players.

If they didn't then they would get humped every time - just like what has happened in nearly every WC since 1966 [Italia 90 excluded]. Every year England are touted as potential winners, 20 years of hurt, 24 years of hurt, 28 years of hurt.... but last year was the first that they actually had players that other top countries were very frightened of, but just as has been said previously, they didn't have a manager that scared these teams!

Worksop_Owl · 01-05-2007, 04:37 PM

Mclaren isnt gud enuff it was a stupid decision gettin him. 2 b honest vennables wud hav been ok, but i still think allardyce is for the job, as he is the most ENGLISH!!!

goldenHuddlestone · 01-05-2007, 05:01 PM

So what do you think Allardyce has that McClaren doesnt

Worksop_Owl · 01-05-2007, 05:04 PM

He has the determiniation to succed, he can bring in young talent and make it work. he is doing a gud job with bolton and he is a gr8 tactician. need i say nemore?

sdrawrof · 01-12-2007, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedi Knight

England imo still don't have the right man in charge to help this squad reach their full potential. while i still don't think England have enough world class players to win a the world cup this squad with the right manager have a chance of reaching the Euro final

In case you didn't notice...anyone...can reach the Euro final.

georgejmacdonald · 03-24-2007, 09:42 PM

England have lost the element of surprise - opposition no exactly how to peg them due to the english media always giving away the style on how england play.

Emclean · 03-26-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sdrawrof

In case you didn't notice...anyone...can reach the Euro final.

Well not anyone, doesnt look good for England! Scotland, however are topping the group & going great guns! Just shows, a bit of team spirit and players who play for their shirt & fans can do wonders !!

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Originally Posted by georgejmacdonald

England have lost the element of surprise - opposition no exactly how to peg them due to the english media always giving away the style on how england play.

Thats the funniest exuse i have heard in ages!

georgejmacdonald · 03-27-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Emclean

Well not anyone, doesnt look good for England! Scotland, however are topping the group & going great guns! Just shows, a bit of team spirit and players who play for their shirt & fans can do wonders !!

Thats the funniest exuse i have heard in ages!

for us scots it is funny watching england slump but for the english fans it is anything but funny. It is not an excuse more like the truth.

12-08-2006, 03:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jedi Knight Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: ma hoose Posts: 1,436 vCash: 500	England's mediocrity is the England national team suuffering due to the amount of foreigners plying their trade in the EPL? last week of all the players that started premiership games, 40% were English. is this having a detremental affect on the national team or is it purely poor tactics etc.......? The FORCE will always triumph over the dark side!!!

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12-13-2006, 01:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Matt the Thrasher Admin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Figueira da Foz ,Portugal Posts: 3,244 vCash: 379	I think in the last world cup only 2 countries had the entire squad based in their own country Italy & Saudi Arabia. The boys of NYPD choir still singing Galway Bay.

12-15-2006, 03:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
squid Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 768 vCash: 500	nah, togo had some players playing in europe. doesnt adebeayor play for togo? anyway it shows you that if you have the system to bring the players through and you give them thier chance your national team will benifit from this. The italians are testimont to this as much as i hate to admit it cause i hate the way they play. "We hate Kelvin MacKenzie, he's a p**f!" T shirts now on sale. £5 each. Who says Scot's don't know how to make money.

01-04-2007, 08:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jedi Knight Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: ma hoose Posts: 1,436 vCash: 500	England imo still don't have the right man in charge to help this squad reach their full potential. while i still don't think England have enough world class players to win a the world cup this squad with the right manager have a chance of reaching the Euro final The FORCE will always triumph over the dark side!!!

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12-10-2006, 06:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
sdrawrof 10 dolphins and a wall Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: earth Posts: 506 vCash: 500	Its called media...England is a mediocre team...thats all.

12-10-2006, 11:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	id b intrested to hear the amount of home grown talent that starts in the other leauges 2

12-12-2006, 07:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	Id agree or possibly Germany

12-14-2006, 06:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
sdrawrof 10 dolphins and a wall Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: earth Posts: 506 vCash: 500	togo?

12-15-2006, 07:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	Wow never really thought about that. Kudos to Italy.

01-04-2007, 10:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	who, would you say, is the right man then

01-05-2007, 09:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
Worksop_Owl Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Urmumsville Posts: 308 vCash: 472	SAM ALLARDYCE!!!! anyway englands youngsters are incredibly talented have u seen the under 21's startin line up?? WOW!

01-05-2007, 02:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
squid Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 768 vCash: 500	i would agree with that one. if England got allardyce they would be more of a threat. if they had got O'niell however (god forbid), they could win the euro's. "We hate Kelvin MacKenzie, he's a p**f!" T shirts now on sale. £5 each. Who says Scot's don't know how to make money.

01-05-2007, 04:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
Joe Football Talk Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 15,347 vCash: 500	The majority of England's squad was based in England for the World Cup. If memory serves me correctly then only Beckham and Hargreaves are foreign based. I do realise what you mean with foreigners in the game keeping English players out the team. However, the best way for players to improve is to learn from better players. If they didn't then they would get humped every time - just like what has happened in nearly every WC since 1966 [Italia 90 excluded]. Every year England are touted as potential winners, 20 years of hurt, 24 years of hurt, 28 years of hurt.... but last year was the first that they actually had players that other top countries were very frightened of, but just as has been said previously, they didn't have a manager that scared these teams! Thanks for visiting FootballTalk.org. You could register now and have your say.

01-05-2007, 04:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
Worksop_Owl Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Urmumsville Posts: 308 vCash: 472	Mclaren isnt gud enuff it was a stupid decision gettin him. 2 b honest vennables wud hav been ok, but i still think allardyce is for the job, as he is the most ENGLISH!!!

01-05-2007, 05:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	So what do you think Allardyce has that McClaren doesnt

01-05-2007, 05:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
Worksop_Owl Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Urmumsville Posts: 308 vCash: 472	He has the determiniation to succed, he can bring in young talent and make it work. he is doing a gud job with bolton and he is a gr8 tactician. need i say nemore?

03-24-2007, 09:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
georgejmacdonald New Signing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6 vCash: 500	England have lost the element of surprise - opposition no exactly how to peg them due to the english media always giving away the style on how england play.

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