Anyone like American sports?

ohioscouser · 09-24-2007, 03:35 AM

Average MLS crowd is around 15,000 id say nothing special really.

Reddevilish · 09-24-2007, 03:41 AM

Very true Ohio. Perhaps if they invested as much money into football, as they do American football, Baseball, or even Basketball, it would have a better survival rate....of course the MLS did put in a hefty investment with the Beckham deal.

ohioscouser · 09-24-2007, 04:06 AM

Well attendences are on the up as are tv ratings, and with bigger name players coming over, its only going to help.

Reddevilish · 09-24-2007, 04:59 AM

Yes, I think so too.

toonmagic9 · 09-25-2007, 05:43 PM

while that maybe true they soon grow out of it and revert back to type ignoring football and watching rounders and rugby for girls

Reddevilish · 09-25-2007, 10:23 PM

LOL. Well it didn't help Hockey for too long when they bought Wayne Gretzy. A year, maybe two, and the crowds were back to minimum.

aisuru · 09-26-2007, 10:14 AM

there was the same jump when they bought Péle, Beckenbaur and so on. it failed though, because they put their eggs in one basket.

MLS is too much of a product, and not enough of a sporting spectacle at the moment. it's all too managed, manipulated and pre-packaged. as is typical with the USA, they try and start at the top, rather than building up a good league over a number of years.

toonmagic9 · 09-26-2007, 05:44 PM

thats the problem with america in general it has no soul, no passion unless it can be turned into a cash cow for a few years and that is exactly what beckham is a money spinner not a person but a product for sale to the highest bidder

goldenHuddlestone · 09-27-2007, 12:40 PM

I think their having more success then they did with the Pele era because they've learnt from their mistakes.

toonmagic9 · 09-28-2007, 06:59 PM

more like there's more money in football and the world in general, i'd rather have been alive to watch pele play in the american league than beckham

goldenHuddlestone · 09-28-2007, 10:16 PM

Im sure you probably were

toonmagic9 · 09-29-2007, 07:35 PM

cheeky sod wasn't alive to see the hand of god nevermind pele's legendary skills.

England#1 · 10-01-2007, 06:01 AM

I like American Football (NFL) .. its a great game, follow it all the time except i cant watch many gaes.. dont hav pay Tv

.. but i like the Atlanta Falcons quaterback Michael Vick, the Steelers team and the great Peyton Manning for the mighty Indianapolis Colts !

stanleyuroy · 11-12-2007, 01:58 PM

i am a player

goldenHuddlestone · 11-12-2007, 08:22 PM

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footballyank · 11-13-2007, 03:49 PM

The thing that really holds back football here in the states is just the lack of fan support. You will never get the kind of local club support for teams here in the states as you do in Europe. This country lacks a real sense of community that spurs on so much support for European clubs. Americans often pick their teams based on a player they like or some arbitrary way like the mascot or team colors (like was mentioned before, its all about corporations and making money). If someone found a way to get true, hardcore support for clubs over here I think it would make a world of difference.

aisuru · 11-13-2007, 06:00 PM

from what i hear, there's a hardcore Toronto FC group, Red Leaf Boys or something, who are practically Ultras. in one way, that's good for MLS... in another it could be quite bad.

toonmagic9 · 11-15-2007, 12:37 PM

that would really damage footballs rep in the states if that is true, i thght that all the different states in america were quite close knit and didn't really care what happens across the statelines aslong as it doesn't impact them surely thats a community spirit

goldenHuddlestone · 11-28-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by toonmagic9

that would really damage footballs rep in the states if that is true, i thght that all the different states in america were quite close knit and didn't really care what happens across the statelines aslong as it doesn't impact them surely thats a community spirit

we're talking about America here. borders mean nothing to them

toonmagic9 · 11-29-2007, 07:25 PM

your right what was i thinking, still think that the only communities they encourage are gated ones and they tend to be insular, which isn't really conducive to spectator sports

Ali · 11-30-2007, 06:43 PM

American sports are crap. end of.

Lions8 · 12-01-2007, 03:17 AM

lol im from texas, we have people who hate like all other states, Esp new york. *shrug* oh and as for those people who randomly pick teams because of colors and crap, you should see the support for the cowboys now that we have a good qb. people are goin nuts over the green bay victory.

09-24-2007, 03:35 AM	#26 (permalink)
ohioscouser Pure Amazingness Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Posts: 75 vCash: 500	Average MLS crowd is around 15,000 id say nothing special really. Come on you Reds!

09-24-2007, 03:41 AM	#27 (permalink)
Reddevilish Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Great White North Posts: 1,634 vCash: 500	Very true Ohio. Perhaps if they invested as much money into football, as they do American football, Baseball, or even Basketball, it would have a better survival rate....of course the MLS did put in a hefty investment with the Beckham deal. Glory, Glory, Man Utd.

09-24-2007, 04:06 AM	#28 (permalink)
ohioscouser Pure Amazingness Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Posts: 75 vCash: 500	Well attendences are on the up as are tv ratings, and with bigger name players coming over, its only going to help. Come on you Reds!

09-24-2007, 04:59 AM	#29 (permalink)
Reddevilish Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Great White North Posts: 1,634 vCash: 500	Yes, I think so too. Glory, Glory, Man Utd.

09-25-2007, 10:23 PM	#31 (permalink)
Reddevilish Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Great White North Posts: 1,634 vCash: 500	LOL. Well it didn't help Hockey for too long when they bought Wayne Gretzy. A year, maybe two, and the crowds were back to minimum. Glory, Glory, Man Utd.

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09-25-2007, 05:43 PM	#30 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,771 vCash: 465	while that maybe true they soon grow out of it and revert back to type ignoring football and watching rounders and rugby for girls

09-26-2007, 10:14 AM	#32 (permalink)
aisuru Admin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: the Village Posts: 4,207 vCash: 726	there was the same jump when they bought Péle, Beckenbaur and so on. it failed though, because they put their eggs in one basket. MLS is too much of a product, and not enough of a sporting spectacle at the moment. it's all too managed, manipulated and pre-packaged. as is typical with the USA, they try and start at the top, rather than building up a good league over a number of years.

09-26-2007, 05:44 PM	#33 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,771 vCash: 465	thats the problem with america in general it has no soul, no passion unless it can be turned into a cash cow for a few years and that is exactly what beckham is a money spinner not a person but a product for sale to the highest bidder

09-27-2007, 12:40 PM	#34 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	I think their having more success then they did with the Pele era because they've learnt from their mistakes.

09-28-2007, 06:59 PM	#35 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,771 vCash: 465	more like there's more money in football and the world in general, i'd rather have been alive to watch pele play in the american league than beckham

09-28-2007, 10:16 PM	#36 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	Im sure you probably were

09-29-2007, 07:35 PM	#37 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,771 vCash: 465	cheeky sod wasn't alive to see the hand of god nevermind pele's legendary skills.

10-01-2007, 06:01 AM	#38 (permalink)
England#1 First Team Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 59 vCash: 500	I like American Football (NFL) .. its a great game, follow it all the time except i cant watch many gaes.. dont hav pay Tv .. but i like the Atlanta Falcons quaterback Michael Vick, the Steelers team and the great Peyton Manning for the mighty Indianapolis Colts ! POM *Inger-land, Inger-land, Inger-land ...*

11-12-2007, 01:58 PM	#39 (permalink)
stanleyuroy New Signing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 25 vCash: 500	i am a player

11-13-2007, 03:49 PM	#41 (permalink)
footballyank New Signing Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6 vCash: 500	The thing that really holds back football here in the states is just the lack of fan support. You will never get the kind of local club support for teams here in the states as you do in Europe. This country lacks a real sense of community that spurs on so much support for European clubs. Americans often pick their teams based on a player they like or some arbitrary way like the mascot or team colors (like was mentioned before, its all about corporations and making money). If someone found a way to get true, hardcore support for clubs over here I think it would make a world of difference.

11-13-2007, 06:00 PM	#42 (permalink)
aisuru Admin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: the Village Posts: 4,207 vCash: 726	from what i hear, there's a hardcore Toronto FC group, Red Leaf Boys or something, who are practically Ultras. in one way, that's good for MLS... in another it could be quite bad.

11-15-2007, 12:37 PM	#43 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,771 vCash: 465	that would really damage footballs rep in the states if that is true, i thght that all the different states in america were quite close knit and didn't really care what happens across the statelines aslong as it doesn't impact them surely thats a community spirit

11-29-2007, 07:25 PM	#45 (permalink)
toonmagic9 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,771 vCash: 465	your right what was i thinking, still think that the only communities they encourage are gated ones and they tend to be insular, which isn't really conducive to spectator sports

11-30-2007, 06:43 PM	#46 (permalink)
Ali First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 54 vCash: 500	American sports are crap. end of.

12-01-2007, 03:17 AM	#47 (permalink)
Lions8 First Team Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 38 vCash: 500	lol im from texas, we have people who hate like all other states, Esp new york. shrug oh and as for those people who randomly pick teams because of colors and crap, you should see the support for the cowboys now that we have a good qb. people are goin nuts over the green bay victory. I'm an american... But its still football not soccer, Kill Fillipo Inzaghi!

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