French Revolution At Ibrox

Joe · 10-16-2006, 09:49 AM

The Le Guen revolution at Ibrox is finally getting into its full swing. Home defeat against Inverness in the league on Saturday and they are now 10 points behing Celtic and 5 behing Hearts.

Players seem to have lost faith in the manager with GK McGregor handing in a transfer request after he was awarded player of the month - and I for one can't blame him.

Will Le Guen last the season, will the bears allow it?

Jedi Knight · 10-16-2006, 01:44 PM

Old Firm fans are notoriously impatient but Le Guen is already stretching what little patience the sons of satan have. The grumblings from their fans are already gathering momentum and if he doesn't turn things round within the next few weeks i can't see him lasting till the end of the season. Their UEFA game against Livorno now looks to be a make or break game, even this early in the season!!

goldenHuddlestone · 10-16-2006, 04:28 PM

He reminds me of Alain Perrin's style of management when he was at Pompey.

Joe · 10-16-2006, 05:34 PM

Le Guen has so many problems I don't really know where to start.

He is still trying to get the team to play this new formation, and the players are obviously struggling. Many look like they have lost heart- Ferguson, Prso included. He continues to play players out of position to suit this formation. I was always of the belief that you adapt your system to suit your players - unless they are technicallty excellent - Rangers don't have technically exceelent players

Jedi Knight · 10-16-2006, 07:28 PM

which leads onto what seems to be his main problem... he can't or maybe he won't adapt to the Scottish game. That's not to say our game is amazing or anything of the sort but whether he likes it or not it is different from the Fench league and he will have to adapt accordingly. One thing is for certain , they are definitely out of the title race

squid · 10-19-2006, 04:47 PM

the thing that must be on most rangers fans 'minds' just now, apart from thier next giro or the burbarry winter collection, is the fact that they dont seem to be making any progress just now. thier are some glaring problems just now but thier seems to be a lack of activity to sort it out. the striker issue is obvious. He doesnt know his best striking pair yet he doenst seem capable of being decisive.

Things look to have gone stagnet at ibrox and i personally think Le Guen will be out by the end of the year.

Jedi Knight · 10-19-2006, 04:53 PM

i think the treatment of Boyd has been nothing short of scandelous. How can he justify leaving their most natural goalscorer on the bench? Le Guen seems to be so obstinate that he would rather make the wrong decisions just to show the media and the public that he will do things his way, all at the expense of the team. I honestly thought they would really push us this season but it doesn't seem to be the case after their 'worst start to the league in 23 years'. warms my heart. Where are those sons of satan who said they 'skoosh' the title this season?

King of Kings · 10-19-2006, 10:29 PM

The result tonight in Italy may have changed that. Rangers looked a different team tonight, may be more time for PLG?

goldenHuddlestone · 10-19-2006, 10:31 PM

I think maybe he has more experinec of European teams

theo kawala · 10-20-2006, 05:56 AM

i was about to say that

squid · 10-20-2006, 11:40 AM

despite the result in europe i still think that there is something missing at ibrox. They looked a different team but i still reckon that there are to many players there that dont like a challenge. I read James Traynor the other day there and I was on the phone to a pheripist because i found myself agreeing with him. There are to many players who are trying to play nice football whereas scottish football is a bit faster and players dont get as much time. This could perhaps explain why they did so well against liverno.

Jedi Knight · 10-20-2006, 03:15 PM

it's also a learning curve for Le Guen as much as it is for his players and i think he will find the right balance and blend and go on a run from there. Europe wll be a nice distraction for them and will boost their confidence but it will be too little too late as far as the league is concerned plus Celtic will be too strong for them this season

goldenHuddlestone · 10-21-2006, 11:53 AM

Also the players have a bit of European confidence left over from lastseason

Joe · 10-22-2006, 11:02 AM

It looks as though he needs to get the players on his side first. With an away win at a poor Italian side he may have won over some of the players, he will have certianly bought more time with the fans. It reminds me of what Ferguson done years ago with Aberdeen and Man Utd, Mourinho is doing it too with Chelsea, trying to build a 'seige' mentality. Everyone is against them is the message, the only ones that you can trust is your teammates, in the hope that the team bonds into a tight unit.

This is all very well but I think he has underestimated one thing - the quality of Scottish football. He may have thought - as many foreigners do - that the Scottish game was reaally poor, but we are not that bad. The players that he has bought don't seem to be good enough for the league.

beartons · 10-22-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe

Le Guen has so many problems I don't really know where to start.

He is still trying to get the team to play this new formation, and the players are obviously struggling. Many look like they have lost heart- Ferguson, Prso included. He continues to play players out of position to suit this formation. I was always of the belief that you adapt your system to suit your players - unless they are technicallty excellent - Rangers don't have technically exceelent players

barry ferguson is playing great,considering he is back from an operation and prso has bad knees and is retiring at the end of the season,hence the 60 minutes a game! Le guen will do ok in europe but a more common sense approach the the spl is needed, european style in scotland wont get you nowhere! i have moaned about him,but i dont see him going anywhere and il give him the benefit of the doubt! it looks like another boring SPL, which isnt Celtics fault,but Rangers and hearts!

goldenHuddlestone · 10-22-2006, 04:39 PM

Didn't know about Prso retiring how old is he

dutch · 10-22-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenHuddlestone

Didn't know about Prso retiring how old is he

He shouldnt retire now
he is 33

King of Kings · 10-22-2006, 05:56 PM

I didn't know that Prso is retiring. 33 isn't too old for a player but I have known that his kness were bad, but not that bad.

goldenHuddlestone · 10-22-2006, 06:28 PM

I was very suprised when he left Monaco for Rangers. No offence but he was at the peak of his career and it seemed a bit of a step back for me.

beartons · 10-22-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by King of Kings

I didn't know that Prso is retiring. 33 isn't too old for a player but I have known that his kness were bad, but not that bad.

yes,he needs to retire or could risk being paralysed,they are very bad, hence the bad form!this is his last season in football!

beartons · 10-23-2006, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldenHuddlestone

I was very suprised when he left Monaco for Rangers. No offence but he was at the peak of his career and it seemed a bit of a step back for me.

i do find it offensive,though i should realise its just a stupid statement by an arrogant twat of an englishmen,thank god all english are not like you,ya dobber! coming from a spurs fan too,i rest my case!

goldenHuddlestone · 10-23-2006, 12:11 AM

Yeah thanks for that mate. Nice to see someone in hear knows how to debate properley.

What I was saying is that he was at a club that was playing in the final of the Champions Leauge with a very strong team and then went from that to a team that wasn;t even playing in a European competition at the time. I also believe that Newcastle were interested at the same time too.

So next time you feel like mouthing off mate you can PM me so we can talk about it like adults instead of you playing the big man and talking sh*t ok?

beartons · 10-23-2006, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldenHuddlestone

Yeah thanks for that mate. Nice to see someone in hear knows how to debate properley.

What I was saying is that he was at a club that was playing in the final of the Champions Leauge with a very strong team and then went from that to a team that wasn;t even playing in a European competition at the time. I also believe that Newcastle were interested at the same time too.

So next time you feel like mouthing off mate you can PM me so we can talk about it like adults instead of you playing the big man and talking sh*t ok?

shut you antogonising little twat,you talk nothing but **** in here,no offence! adults,dont make me laugh,youve not even finished puberty yet!

10-16-2006, 09:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Joe Football Talk Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 15,623 vCash: 500	French Revolution At Ibrox The Le Guen revolution at Ibrox is finally getting into its full swing. Home defeat against Inverness in the league on Saturday and they are now 10 points behing Celtic and 5 behing Hearts. Players seem to have lost faith in the manager with GK McGregor handing in a transfer request after he was awarded player of the month - and I for one can't blame him. Will Le Guen last the season, will the bears allow it? Thanks for visiting FootballTalk.org. You could register now and have your say.

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10-16-2006, 01:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jedi Knight Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: ma hoose Posts: 1,436 vCash: 500	Old Firm fans are notoriously impatient but Le Guen is already stretching what little patience the sons of satan have. The grumblings from their fans are already gathering momentum and if he doesn't turn things round within the next few weeks i can't see him lasting till the end of the season. Their UEFA game against Livorno now looks to be a make or break game, even this early in the season!! The FORCE will always triumph over the dark side!!!

10-16-2006, 05:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Joe Football Talk Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 15,623 vCash: 500	Le Guen has so many problems I don't really know where to start. He is still trying to get the team to play this new formation, and the players are obviously struggling. Many look like they have lost heart- Ferguson, Prso included. He continues to play players out of position to suit this formation. I was always of the belief that you adapt your system to suit your players - unless they are technicallty excellent - Rangers don't have technically exceelent players Thanks for visiting FootballTalk.org. You could register now and have your say.

10-16-2006, 07:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jedi Knight Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: ma hoose Posts: 1,436 vCash: 500	which leads onto what seems to be his main problem... he can't or maybe he won't adapt to the Scottish game. That's not to say our game is amazing or anything of the sort but whether he likes it or not it is different from the Fench league and he will have to adapt accordingly. One thing is for certain , they are definitely out of the title race The FORCE will always triumph over the dark side!!!

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10-16-2006, 04:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	He reminds me of Alain Perrin's style of management when he was at Pompey.

10-19-2006, 04:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
squid Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 767 vCash: 500	the thing that must be on most rangers fans 'minds' just now, apart from thier next giro or the burbarry winter collection, is the fact that they dont seem to be making any progress just now. thier are some glaring problems just now but thier seems to be a lack of activity to sort it out. the striker issue is obvious. He doesnt know his best striking pair yet he doenst seem capable of being decisive. Things look to have gone stagnet at ibrox and i personally think Le Guen will be out by the end of the year.

10-19-2006, 04:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jedi Knight Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: ma hoose Posts: 1,436 vCash: 500	i think the treatment of Boyd has been nothing short of scandelous. How can he justify leaving their most natural goalscorer on the bench? Le Guen seems to be so obstinate that he would rather make the wrong decisions just to show the media and the public that he will do things his way, all at the expense of the team. I honestly thought they would really push us this season but it doesn't seem to be the case after their 'worst start to the league in 23 years'. warms my heart. Where are those sons of satan who said they 'skoosh' the title this season? The FORCE will always triumph over the dark side!!!

10-19-2006, 10:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	I think maybe he has more experinec of European teams

10-20-2006, 05:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
theo kawala Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: england peterborough Posts: 3,138 vCash: 500	i was about to say that MR VA VA VOOM HES THE BEST!! HES GONNA SCORE A THOUSAND GOALS WHEN HE STARTS EVERY GAME!!!

10-20-2006, 11:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
squid Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 767 vCash: 500	despite the result in europe i still think that there is something missing at ibrox. They looked a different team but i still reckon that there are to many players there that dont like a challenge. I read James Traynor the other day there and I was on the phone to a pheripist because i found myself agreeing with him. There are to many players who are trying to play nice football whereas scottish football is a bit faster and players dont get as much time. This could perhaps explain why they did so well against liverno.

10-20-2006, 03:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jedi Knight Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: ma hoose Posts: 1,436 vCash: 500	it's also a learning curve for Le Guen as much as it is for his players and i think he will find the right balance and blend and go on a run from there. Europe wll be a nice distraction for them and will boost their confidence but it will be too little too late as far as the league is concerned plus Celtic will be too strong for them this season The FORCE will always triumph over the dark side!!!

10-21-2006, 11:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	Also the players have a bit of European confidence left over from lastseason

10-22-2006, 11:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
Joe Football Talk Admin Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 15,623 vCash: 500	It looks as though he needs to get the players on his side first. With an away win at a poor Italian side he may have won over some of the players, he will have certianly bought more time with the fans. It reminds me of what Ferguson done years ago with Aberdeen and Man Utd, Mourinho is doing it too with Chelsea, trying to build a 'seige' mentality. Everyone is against them is the message, the only ones that you can trust is your teammates, in the hope that the team bonds into a tight unit. This is all very well but I think he has underestimated one thing - the quality of Scottish football. He may have thought - as many foreigners do - that the Scottish game was reaally poor, but we are not that bad. The players that he has bought don't seem to be good enough for the league. Thanks for visiting FootballTalk.org. You could register now and have your say.

10-22-2006, 04:39 PM	#16 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	Didn't know about Prso retiring how old is he

10-22-2006, 06:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	I was very suprised when he left Monaco for Rangers. No offence but he was at the peak of his career and it seemed a bit of a step back for me.

10-23-2006, 12:11 AM	#22 (permalink)
goldenHuddlestone Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,647 vCash: 480	Yeah thanks for that mate. Nice to see someone in hear knows how to debate properley. What I was saying is that he was at a club that was playing in the final of the Champions Leauge with a very strong team and then went from that to a team that wasn;t even playing in a European competition at the time. I also believe that Newcastle were interested at the same time too. So next time you feel like mouthing off mate you can PM me so we can talk about it like adults instead of you playing the big man and talking sh*t ok?