[aisuru]

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how do we rate their chances then?

Smith did well during his last tenure, winning the league seven times. can he take the club to that level of success again?

[squid]

the elation i was feeling yesterday has tuned to dispair. How can Smith do this to the national side. how can he leave the fans, the players and the sfa just as we look like challenging for the euro's. i hope its not tru but it seems as if someone is telling murray to move for the likes of webster, brown and thomson.

if he does join rangers, he's a disgrace. the national team has always got to come ahead of any club and if the sfa wanted strachan to replace him i would hope hope that he took the job.

[Joe]

At least I know what McCoist & Smith's priorities are now.

[goldenHuddlestone]

Yeah. I know what you mean JOe Question of Sport will never be the same

[Jedi Knight]

Originally Posted by squid

the elation i was feeling yesterday has tuned to dispair. How can Smith do this to the national side. how can he leave the fans, the players and the sfa just as we look like challenging for the euro's. i hope its not tru but it seems as if someone is telling murray to move for the likes of webster, brown and thomson.

if he does join rangers, he's a disgrace. the national team has always got to come ahead of any club and if the sfa wanted strachan to replace him i would hope hope that he took the job.

you've saved me a post. so eloquently put. U have lterally taken the words right out of my mouth. We'll see how this plays out but if Wattie does re-join 'them', i hope he gets dogs abuse at every other scottish ground

[beartons]

only celtic fans would come out with these comments! typical! the truth is walter has not been happy with his contract,they never backed him 100%,the s.f.a had a clause that they could get rid of him after the euro qualifiers! so its a very fragile job! all saying that,im hoping and so is smith,that he xcan do both jobs till the qualifiers!
lets be honest Scotland will not qualify,and anybody who thinks we can are lving in coo-coo land!
i dont agree that the scotland job is more important than the club you support,if that was the case,why were they only getting crappy attendances with bertie voghts!#
Home is where the heart is,and i will be delighted with smith/mccoist bring Rangers back to where they belong,we have been left to rot for years! i couldnt have asked for a better appointment,all saying that i really hope smith is still scotland manager too,and i believe that will be the case,its never really happened in football,but it can work !
and the point of smith being a traitor is very shortminded,the guy has restored scotlands pride,small memories and minds indeed! Scotland are in good stead for the future because of smith/mccoist and they should be held in the highest reguard,and whoever takes over in the end will get as much help from smith etc as possible and may even be invoved in the move for the new manager! its not doom and gloom!

[Jedi Knight]

For this rumour to stir-up such a reaction is actually a back-handed compliment to Smith, as it is a testamony to the job he has done so far. After all, if he hadn't turned things around for the national team so dramatically, nobody would be too bothered. However, your heart is with your club but you have to show tolerance and concede that some people are more passionate about their national team than their club and as such their opinions are just as valid hence the reason some fans will feel betrayed. Put it this way, if the boot was on the other foot and Smith was rumoured to leave Ibrox for the Premiership, half-way through the season, with Rangers neck and neck with the 'tic in the league and with the treble on, could u honestly say you would be as understanding and accomodating?

[Joe]

Scotland have no chance of qualifying for the Euro Championship???

They don't have a hope in hell now, but Rangers may have a better chance of winning the Scottish Cup

Smith WALKING out on the national side to manage Rangers is a disgrace in my view. If the SFA come calling for Strachan and he want the job he would be welcome to go --- just as Celtic's greatest ever manager did! I am not being sectarian here, I believe that your country comes before your club.

[beartons]

Originally Posted by Jedi Knight

For this rumour to stir-up such a reaction is actually a back-handed compliment to Smith, as it is a testamony to the job he has done so far. After all, if he hadn't turned things around for the national team so dramatically, nobody would be too bothered. However, your heart is with your club but you have to show tolerance and concede that some people are more passionate about their national team than their club and as such their opinions are just as valid hence the reason some fans will feel betrayed. Put it this way, if the boot was on the other foot and Smith was rumoured to leave Ibrox for the Premiership, half-way through the season, with Rangers neck and neck with the 'tic in the league and with the treble on, could u honestly say you would be as understanding and accomodating?

no but that wouldnt happen! get real!

[beartons]

Originally Posted by Joe

Scotland have no chance of qualifying for the Euro Championship???

They don't have a hope in hell now, but Rangers may have a better chance of winning the Scottish Cup

Smith WALKING out on the national side to manage Rangers is a disgrace in my view. If the SFA come calling for Strachan and he want the job he would be welcome to go --- just as Celtic's greatest ever manager did! I am not being sectarian here, I believe that your country comes before your club.

green specs! when was the last time you seen scotland!

[aisuru]

Originally Posted by beartons

only celtic fans would come out with these comments! typical!

i'm a Jag, and i have to agree with them. country comes before club, he shouldn't be walking out on Scotland, but i'm waiting to see what actually happens before slating anyone for it.

[beartons]

[quote=aisuru;27140]i'm a Jag, and i have to agree with them. country comes before club, he shouldn't be walking out on Scotland, but i'm waiting to see what actually happens before slating anyone for it.[/QUOTE
most people couldnt give a toss about there country,club football is where the heart is,infact ask half the celtic support! they bloody hate scotland! yes,the scotland game is a bevvy ,but its all nationalistic pride over real life! scotland are crap and have been since 1986,and even then they were just ok!
yous can all moan and groan,but yous are all hippocrates and there are thousands of points i can make on it! and all this crap about,id let strachan go to scotland but wouldnt like him to join celtic if he was scotland manager bollocks really is antagonising and patronising! club v country is absolute bollocks,whos kidding who! club is far more important than country,they give them a living,something scotland do not do! secondly clubs are a massive buisness,a very serious buisness,and how many times have players not played for their country and the big club game is coming up!kenny dalglish.barry ferguson etc etc etc! because a slight injury,or even got injured for the national team and then yous have moaned about it,its 2 faced ! believe me country is a privalege,but club is their life! kenny dalglish.barry ferguson etc etc etc,have all done it,because they are not daft,not like you eejits in here! get real,walter is going with his heart and brain and thats the way life is,not doing things to suit joe public,have any of you not left a job for something you prefer,well its no different here,whether its scotland or not! scotland will not qualify so whats the problem! and id bet any money on that,its obvious to me and most realists out there! Liam miller went to man u,because he couldnt turn it down,if it fails then so be it,it would be worse not taking the chance and wondering what if! paul mcstay never left celtic and probably regrets the decision evry day! its the same for managers,if country was so important,why have the greats not took the scotland job over there club,souness,ferguson,dalglish,graham,the list is endless! club v country there is no competition,yous can kid on there is,but come on be honest with yourselves!

[aisuru]

don't talk s****.

meby for the Old Firm club is more important than country, but for those of us who support other teams life is a little different.

who gives a toss if it's better paid for them? if the Scotland job didn't pay well they wouldn't have taken it in the first place. if their hearts weren't in it, they wouldn't have taken it in the first place. you take a lot of stick as a national team coach, and nobody takes the job unless they're convinced they can do a good job and they feel they can give something to the country.

and this bollocks about 'providing a living'. mince. a couple of thousand pounds a month isn't enough to live on? they need 1500 notes a WEEK? come on, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel with this nonsense now.

admit it, you're biased because you're a bluenose and must automatically disagree with the Tims, even when they're right and you know it.

[beartons]

Originally Posted by aisuru

don't talk s****.

meby for the Old Firm club is more important than country, but for those of us who support other teams life is a little different.

who gives a toss if it's better paid for them? if the Scotland job didn't pay well they wouldn't have taken it in the first place. if their hearts weren't in it, they wouldn't have taken it in the first place. you take a lot of stick as a national team coach, and nobody takes the job unless they're convinced they can do a good job and they feel they can give something to the country.

and this bollocks about 'providing a living'. mince. a couple of thousand pounds a month isn't enough to live on? they need 1500 notes a WEEK? come on, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel with this nonsense now.

admit it, you're biased because you're a bluenose and must automatically disagree with the Tims, even when they're right and you know it.

why dont you show your colours,stop kidding on your a partick thistlefan,this place is full of them,and so are you! and if you are a partick thistle fan,dont lecture me on football mate,and im not scraping any barrell,there are 5 million people living in scotland,only 2 to 3 million are scottish,the rest are from other countries! half the celtic support follow ireland,and half the Rangers support follow england, that leaves about 300,000 fans,only the tartan army are real fans,and there isnt 300,000! so they can moan and groan cos they have a right to,but i couldnt give a ****,the majority of them are middle class spoilt fuckers ,probably just like yourself! enjoy your teams win at dumbarton,fanny! and mate i couldnt give a **** about scotland as a country or a shitty football team,its a shithole and i hope they get humped,and put us all out our misery,!! which wont be long!

[aisuru]

ho ho ho, gave me a good laugh, that one.

a Sellic fan? me? nope. Jaggy through and through... but haven't always been. yup, i used to support the Gers, until i grew tired of the petty sectarian bullshit. i'm not biased - i hate the old firm equally. middle class spoiled f***er? no, not me. working class, from Cumbernauld. the 'worst town in Britain' apparently.

every Celtic fan i know supports Scotland. every Rangers fan i know supports Scotland. there are a lot of people i know who don't even follow club football, but still support Scotland when they play. and as for this 2-3 million people from other countries... that's just racist, frankly.

i couldnt give a **** about scotland as a country or a shitty football team,its a shithole and i hope they get humped

that says it all, really. you don't like Scotland, leave. go somewhere else. the rest of us, who actually nave some national pride, and are not overly-negative defeatists will stay here and support our national team.

you clearly only care about Rangers Football Club, but like the majority of Huns, can only express this through belittlement of other teams, accusations, slander and religious hatred. not to mention use of exclamation marks at the end of every run-on sentence! this must be to try and get your point across! perhaps it's because deep down you know nobody will pay attention to your pish unless you are shouting!


so here's an idea: try and act like a grown up and discuss this properly, or shut the f*** up.

[beartons]

Originally Posted by aisuru

ho ho ho, gave me a good laugh, that one.

a Sellic fan? me? nope. Jaggy through and through... but haven't always been. yup, i used to support the Gers, until i grew tired of the petty sectarian bullshit. i'm not biased - i hate the old firm equally. middle class spoiled f***er? no, not me. working class, from Cumbernauld. the 'worst town in Britain' apparently.

every Celtic fan i know supports Scotland. every Rangers fan i know supports Scotland. there are a lot of people i know who don't even follow club football, but still support Scotland when they play. and as for this 2-3 million people from other countries... that's just racist, frankly.

that says it all, really. you don't like Scotland, leave. go somewhere else. the rest of us, who actually nave some national pride, and are not overly-negative defeatists will stay here and support our national team.

you clearly only care about Rangers Football Club, but like the majority of Huns, can only express this through belittlement of other teams, accusations, slander and religious hatred. not to mention use of exclamation marks at the end of every run-on sentence! this must be to try and get your point across! perhaps it's because deep down you know nobody will pay attention to your pish unless you are shouting!


so here's an idea: try and act like a grown up and discuss this properly, or shut the f*** up.

its a fact that there are only 3 million scots in scotland,and the rest are from abroad,how the **** is that racist!" dont tell me tell me to shut the **** up again ya prick ! how the **** can you shout on a keyboard, muppet! you clearly only care about Rangers Football Club, but like the majority of Huns, can only express this through belittlement of other teams, accusations, slander and religious hatred, mmmm thats grown up,whos a biggot now,condradicting fuckwit!
the celtic arms!

[Joe]

Originally Posted by beartons

green specs! when was the last time you seen scotland!

When was the last time I seen Celtic? Years ago. I stopped going after Rangers won the league at Parkhead about 6 years ago and had to run the gauntlet of Rangers fans after the game, I decided that going to the match was just not worth the hassle.

It is the first time in years that Scotland have not been a laughing stock- I am genuinely annoyed that Smith has left his post to step down to a club side.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by beartons

why dont you show your colours,stop kidding on your a partick thistlefan,this place is full of them,and so are you! and if you are a partick thistle fan,dont lecture me on football mate,and im not scraping any barrell,there are 5 million people living in scotland,only 2 to 3 million are scottish,the rest are from other countries! half the celtic support follow ireland,and half the Rangers support follow england, that leaves about 300,000 fans,only the tartan army are real fans,and there isnt 300,000! so they can moan and groan cos they have a right to,but i couldnt give a ****,the majority of them are middle class spoilt fuckers ,probably just like yourself! enjoy your teams win at dumbarton,fanny! and mate i couldnt give a **** about scotland as a country or a shitty football team,its a shithole and i hope they get humped,and put us all out our misery,!! which wont be long!

I also don't believe half the Rangers and Celtic support only support England and Ireland. There are many who do but the figures of nitwits can't be so high, I would be mortified if that were the case.

For the first time in years we have a chance of qualifying from the toughest group we could have found ourselves in and we are holding our own...in fact more than holding our own. Even if we don't make it [and going by history and Scotland's glorious failure crap] we might not but at least we can take pride in our small nation again. You need to remember that, we will never win the WC or major honors as Scotland but that may be the reason why you don't like the national side, you can be the 'best' in Scotland with Rangers.

[aisuru]

it's racist because you're implying that immigrants do not care about Scotland - the same way someone may imply that all Muslims are suicide bombers. it's incorrect, and therefore racist.

and how is it a fact? show us some proof of this figure. three million Scots and two million foreign nationals?

also, if you're going to use arguments like that, then there are probably 30 million Scots worldwide, with 15 million people of Scottish decent in North America alone.

whos a biggot now,condradicting fuckwit!

uh... still you. show me where i have been bigoted. you, on the other hand, have made a number of bigoted statements in this thread. these include the ideas that most Celtic fans do not support Scotland, that immigrants to Scotland are not Scottish and do not support Scotland. furthermore, you insisted that I support Celtic purely because i disagreed with you.

it's quite disappointing that you can't debate this like an adult and have to resort to petty name calling.

[beartons]

Originally Posted by aisuru

it's racist because you're implying that immigrants do not care about Scotland - the same way someone may imply that all Muslims are suicide bombers. it's incorrect, and therefore racist.

and how is it a fact? show us some proof of this figure. three million Scots and two million foreign nationals?

also, if you're going to use arguments like that, then there are probably 30 million Scots worldwide, with 15 million people of Scottish decent in North America alone.

uh... still you. show me where i have been bigoted. you, on the other hand, have made a number of bigoted statements in this thread. these include the ideas that most Celtic fans do not support Scotland, that immigrants to Scotland are not Scottish and do not support Scotland. furthermore, you insisted that I support Celtic purely because i disagreed with you.

it's quite disappointing that you can't debate this like an adult and have to resort to petty name calling.

where did i imply that immigrants dont care about scotland! and yes there are millions more worldwide!! i was exaggerating about the Rangers/england and celtic/ireland support,i was talking rubbish there ,though id say 5/10 %,and i cant stand them!i was also talking rubbish about not supporting scotland!
the problem on here is its mostly Celtic fans,with their side of the story and its always right in their eyes which pisses me off!,and when you are getting put in a corner,i bite! i was in a very bad mood yesterday and had a crappy day,if it wasnt a site to take my frustrations out,it would have been someone outside in real life! walter smith has not left and will probably take the 2 jobs,everybody has got all bonkers over nothing!
you were not racist,you were sectarian in the comment "you clearly only care about Rangers Football Club, but like the majority of Huns, c