[goldenHuddlestone]

Strathclyde Police will report Celtic goalkeeper Artur Boruc to football authorities following a flag-waving incident at Ibrox on Saturday.

The Pole ran across the pitch with a flag proclaiming Celtic as champions after their 2-0 defeat by Rangers.

Strathclyde Police stated: "We are aware of the Celtic goalkeeper's actions at the end of the game. No criminal act has occurred, but we will be addressing the matter to Celtic and the Scottish Premier League."

The Scottish FA will await referee Craig Thomson's report before deciding if action is required.

Boruc received a procurator fiscal's caution for breach of the peace as an alternative to prosecution after making gestures at Rangers fans at Ibrox in August.

And Dundee United fans last month complained that the goalkeeper made a gesture at half-time during their game against Celtic.

But Celtic manager Gordon Strachan, interviewed after Saturday's game, dismissed the suggestion that that the latest incident had constituted a provocative gesture.

[Maf]

What an over reaction!!! Surely the police have more important matters to fill their time with!! Can't players celebrate anything anymore??

[aisuru]

we have anti-sectarianism laws in an effort to reduce religion-based football violence in Scotland. and the Old Bill take a dim view on players doing anything that might cause trouble between the two sides after the match, so if he was found to be taunting the Rangers fans it could be a case of inciting religious hatred.

[goldenHuddlestone]

It is a fine line though just because their bigging up their win their not necessarily being racist or sectarian

[aisuru]

well that's the thing, but it only takes a small section of people to be offended by the actions for it to be declared a sectarian taunt.

to be honest, he should know better. he's been in Scotland for two years now, and he should know that it's best not to get involved with anything that could wind up opposing sides of the OF.

[trueblue27]

Boruc deserves to have the rule book thrown at him. I was at the match on Saturday (sorry slaughtering) and Boruc was out of order. The thing with this guy is that he is aware of the situation in Scotland bewteen Rangers & Celtic, and again he went out to wind the suporrtes up, The flag at the end of the game was not the only thing he done. After running on the park at half time he ran up to the Rangers support and stopped on the six yard line, waited for about 30 seconds just looking directly at the support and then blessed himself. Now I know some Celtic supporters will take the high ground as usual, about it being a disgrace a player cannot shoe his religious beliefs on a pitch. The thing is and this part is very important He does this only to irritate the support behind the goals and for no other reason, I would think Celtic Fc should have a word in his ear to tell him to grow up and stop this. Both teams are doing their best to get rid of the scum bags supporting each team, and he is not helping the situation. I have no problem with the guy blessing himself but not directly in front of a crowd which he knows for certain will react . Grow up Boruc we do not need this crap in the game.
Rant over for the day

Rangers 2 Celtic 0

Bring on next season

trueblue 27

[aisuru]

quite right trueblue. both sides have their problems, and both sides have taken steps to combat their problems, and it does the club no favours when their players act in that way.

[hubert]

Originally Posted by aisuru

we have anti-sectarianism laws in an effort to reduce religion-based football violence in Scotland. and the Old Bill take a dim view on players doing anything that might cause trouble between the two sides after the match, so if he was found to be taunting the Rangers fans it could be a case of inciting religious hatred.

Carrying a flag that is about football and the championship has bugger all to do with religion.
I am not a religious person, however I would suggest that if Rangers fans were to be incited by the flag being carried by Boruc, its probably based on religious bigotry by those fans.

[aisuru]

doesn't really matter whether it was a religious flag on not, he was taunting Rangers fans with it. if you're a player and you taunt the opposing fans, then that can send a message to your side's supporters that it's OK to do so as well - and since the main divide between them is religious-based, then that's going to open up the floodgates to sectarianism.

[hubert]

Originally Posted by aisuru

doesn't really matter whether it was a religious flag on not, he was taunting Rangers fans with it. if you're a player and you taunt the opposing fans, then that can send a message to your side's supporters that it's OK to do so as well - and since the main divide between them is religious-based, then that's going to open up the floodgates to sectarianism.

Oh hold on there, read my post please, I didnt say it was or wasnt a religious flag, please dont start being bloody silly, I said it was a football flag and a championship flag?
I still say those that see it religiously anywhere and especially at Ibrox, are the bigots.
You wouldnt happen to be a bigot by any chance?

[trueblue27]

Hubert, I really think you should read my post correctly, My point was that he blessed himself in a certain manner, which was only to annoy the fans behind the goal amd nothing else. The flag situation was also done for the same reason. The guy is a menace and Celtic should tell him to quit all that nonsense as the bulk of the supporters do not want any of the sectarian garbage. In the perfect world a player should be able to bless himself with no reaction, but then there should be no muggings, rapes, murders, robberies etc an on and on. Even sppeding in the car we all do it even though we should not. Stop defeding a guy who by my mind is sectarian by his actions.

[aisuru]

Originally Posted by hubert

Oh hold on there, read my post please, I didnt say it was or wasnt a religious flag, please dont start being bloody silly, I said it was a football flag and a championship flag?

i did read your post, perhaps you should read mine again. i said it doesn't matter what the nature of the flag is, he shouldn't be using it to taunt opposing supporters.

Originally Posted by hubert

I still say those that see it religiously anywhere and especially at Ibrox, are the bigots.

sorry, but that's somewhat bigoted in itself. you're basically accusing all Rangers supporters of feigning religious belief here. true, some of them only claim to be christian for the sake of football, but there are some Rangers supporters who do believe quite strongly - for better or worse - in protestantism. they were taunted in a sectarian manner, and they have every right to feel aggrieved. it works both ways.

Originally Posted by hubert

You wouldnt happen to be a bigot by any chance?

no, far from it. i'm a Jag ( hence the spiffy badge over to the left there, which you may hve missed. ) and an atheist. i don't believe in jeebus, and i hate both sides of the Old Infirm equally.

[hubert]

Originally Posted by aisuru

i did read your post, perhaps you should read mine again. i said it doesn't matter what the nature of the flag is, he shouldn't be using it to taunt opposing supporters.

sorry, but that's somewhat bigoted in itself. you're basically accusing all Rangers supporters of feigning religious belief here. true, some of them only claim to be christian for the sake of football, but there are some Rangers supporters who do believe quite strongly - for better or worse - in protestantism. they were taunted in a sectarian manner, and they have every right to feel aggrieved. it works both ways.

no, far from it. i'm a Jag ( hence the spiffy badge over to the left there, which you may hve missed. ) and an atheist. i don't believe in jeebus, and i hate both sides of the Old Infirm equally.

No further comment!

[squid]

the guy was stupid to do this and Celtic should fine him for being so stupid. He's entitled to celebrate but he was tring to antagonise the rangers support.

The fact that the police are involved is just stupid. It should be sorted out by the club or the SPL.

[goldenHuddlestone]

What ever came of this?

[aisuru]

SFA looked into it, did sweet FA (no pun intended)

[goldenHuddlestone]

What was their opinion

[aisuru]

i don't think they have one, being incapable of original thought as they are

[murdoch]

Originally Posted by aisuru

well that's the thing, but it only takes a small section of people to be offended by the actions for it to be declared a sectarian taunt.

Utter nonsense, it's needs to be a sectarian act before it can be deemed a sectarian act, not because "a small section of people" see it as such

Originally Posted by trueblue27

My point was that he blessed himself in a certain manner, which was only to annoy the fans behind the goal amd nothing else.

How did he bless himself? did he wear a pointy hat and big red nose, grow up, he's always blessed himself. Players from all over the world do it, BUT it's a problem when it's done at the home of Rangers.

[aisuru]

Originally Posted by murdoch

Utter nonsense, it's needs to be a sectarian act before it can be deemed a sectarian act, not because "a small section of people" see it as such

well, it was a sectarian act, so what's your point?

Originally Posted by murdoch

How did he bless himself? did he wear a pointy hat and big red nose, grow up, he's always blessed himself. Players from all over the world do it, BUT it's a problem when it's done at the home of Rangers.

he blessed himself while facing the Rangers fans, in order to taunt them. he could have blessed himself in the tunnel just as easily, but he decided to go and face the home support and do it there.

[murdoch]

Originally Posted by aisuru

well, it was a sectarian act, so what's your point?

What blessing yourself is a sectarian act

Originally Posted by aisuru

he blessed himself while facing the Rangers fans, in order to taunt them. he could have blessed himself in the tunnel just as easily, but he decided to go and face the home support and do it there.

He goes through the same routine at the goals at kick off and half time, regardless of where he plays, he has always done it. He should bless himself in the tunnel because Rangers fans do not like Catholics blessing themselves?

Away and howl at the moon

[aisuru]

not biased or anything, are you?

[hubert]

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