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vCash: 500 | eduardo injury im wondering what everyone else thinks should be done to Birmingham defender Taylor regarding his heinous challenge on Arsenal's Eduardo. A starting suggestion: Should Taylor be banned from professional football for as long as Eduardo is kept off due to his terrible injury? |
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vCash: 726 | no, i don't think so. it was a bad tackle, but not quite at the level where two people's careers need to be ruined because of it. it looked to me to be a mistimed play on the ball, which got the man, rather than a deliberate attempt to snap Eduardo's ankle. |
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vCash: 500 | I think there needs to be action taken in some form for this sort of vicious assault. it was not a tackle as there really was no attempt to get the ball, also when contact was made Taylor could have and should have pulled out and no attempt to do this was made. He kept his leg straight and a just a bending of his knee would have resulted in much less damage to Eduardo. Its a good suggestion to have a ban for as long as the injured player is out, but there should be at least a 6 month ban for this sort of behaviour in order to eradicate from the game. I just hope Eduardo makes a full recovery and ths shock that this has caused makes all players a little more concsious about be reckless like that. |
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vCash: 500 | He deserves to cop it big time, Even if Eduardo can come back from this career threatening injury, he won't be half the player he was just weeks ago, Taylor should at the very least be banned for six months in order for him to suffer a little. He went in hard and he went in for him, In my opinion even if he got the ball the power in the tackle still would've caused some problems for Eduardo. Six month ban without wages |
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vCash: 726 | what are you people on about? it was a sloppy, badly-timed tackle, not assault. you could tell by Taylor's face that he hadn't meant it. it's a contact sport, and sometimes the contact is a bit more forceful than was intended, and that's what happened here. if you're deliberately going to hack somebody, you stamp on them, or you go in with both feet to make sure you get him. Taylor went for the ball, had it kinked away from him and ended up sliding past it and making contact. these things happen, and although it's a terrible injury and a shame for Eduardo, it's an accident, and people need to remember that and stop overreacting. as Alex McLiesh said: Quote:
even Arsene Wenger has retracted his statements about giving the guy a life ban. everyone needs to cease their witch hunt and accept that it was an accident. | |
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vCash: 500 | I hear this talk about it being a mis-timed tackle, and this is the sort of thing that happens in contact sports on occasions and the offender was unlucky and we should leave him be to carry on without punishment other than the statutory 3 match ban for receiving a red card. And of course no-one is more sorry than Taylor himself. Now I dont think this man should be villified for eternity for making a bad tackle for which I'm sure the end result was not intended. However, he broke the rules of the game by tackling with the under side of the boot, namely the studs. Which is defined as foul play, and yes most players regularly do the same but with no or lesser consequences, but that does not make it ok. So the tackle was foul play and the outcome of this foul play for Eduardo is very severe. And I believe that Taylor should be held more accountable for his intentional actions. Its like speeding in a 30 mph zone in your car. most people do it at some time, if you get caught you get a nominal fine and a 3 point endorsement, however, if your ignorance of the law leads to an accident where someone is seriously hurt or worse, then the powers of the law can make you pay accordingly. I think you'll find that this sort of system is called JUSTICE. and that is exactly what should happen with incidents like this in sports. the tackle was intentional foul play which should be punished according to the severity of the innocent victims injuries. Only then will there be any sort of justice. And eventually the better players wont have long periods out of the game caused by the so called "hardmen" of the game who are really just a bunch of cowards who aint good enough to compete on even terms. Wishing Eduardo Da Silva a full and speedy recovery. |
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vCash: 726 | that's exactly the sort of overreaction i was talking about. it's hardly the same thing as speeding in a built up area and killing somebody. yes, he should get a suspension, but no more than the normal disciplinary three matches. i fail to see how so many people can read it as a deliberate attempt to cause injury. |
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vCash: 465 | i agree eith aisuru the over reaction to this post is incredible if martin taylor was as quick as eduardo then it would have been ag ood tackle the fact he isn't doesn't make him criminal no1, i am pleased that wenger retracted his original statement as he was clearly emotional after the match, plus the tackle was late it ewasn't over the top and he didn't leave the floor, and if eduardo's leg hadn't been broken he'd of got a yellow card at worst. and while were on the subject i haven't seen many posts calling for eboue to be banned for more than one match after his recent dismissal as he is one player i have witnessed on three ocassions achieving or trying to injure a player, terry, downing and evra will all testify to that, alos barton has got away with worse tackles than taylors and he hasn't suffered any punishment yet just to show i'm not biased. |
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vCash: 500 | I think a 3 match ban or something like mentioned early in this thread would be sufficient. I don't like Arsenal, but I do feel for their fans and Eduardo. I'm not sure if Taylor meant to do it, but he probably feels pretty bad about it now if he did knowing the extent of Eduardo's injury. For a split second I thought it might've been a dive of sorts since so many players do it, but I was mistaken. I think this does hurt Arsenal somewhat in the CL and Prem quests. |
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vCash: 500 | i have seen the videos of the injury on youtube and to my horror realized that eduardos bone had actually puctured thru the skin and was sticking out at the side of his leg! this makes it seem more grisly and thus people will react accoridingly. Note that Eduardo will miss the Euro in the summer and about half of next season. thats a lot of games to be out truly a career threatening injury |
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vCash: 465 | it was a lunge for the ball and if you lunget then unfortunately you have your studs showing and if you get it wrong then you commit a foul, it's not malicous in anyway and yet you get silly kneejerk reactions because of it, i quite like eduardo's reaction to the incident as **** does happen it's how you deal with it and he knows it wasn't done with intent so why can't other people, there have been alot worse challenges that haven't caused any injuries at all yet we never hear anything about banning those players for life. |
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vCash: 726 | agreed. accidents will happen, especially in sport. just because football isn't as obviously dangerous as motor racing or boxing, people seem to forget that there's still an element of risk involved. everyone who plays, whether they're a top-flight professional footballer or they just play fives with work colleagues once a week, has to expect a level of contact which could result in injuries. |
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vCash: 465 | at last some common sense and there now talking about when he will recover from the injury there is talk of him running in six months which for me seems optimistic but i'm not a doctor. slightly off topic can't understand why masherano isn't in as much trouble as allialdare as he raised hios hands and kicked the middlesbourgh player yet the fa have dismissed his frivilous appeal which in my view seems a little harsh as it was barely a slap and it was so late in the game. |
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vCash: 465 | why are fifa getting involved i would feel the fa have dealt with it and we should mopve on the longer people stick they're oar in the longer the black cloud will hover over it, plus why arn't they looking at makele's tackle in the west ham game as i feel that was a lot worse and definetley more dangerous. can't understand why ronaldo fears he will suffer a similar fate to eduardo as he is a much quicker and better player, so will avoid the lunges that defenders make, and the ref was right in my view wasn't a penalty distin used his strenth to ease ronaldo out, if they'd have got that we should have had one were ferdinand kicked through owen to clear the ball |
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vCash: 500 | the injury was horrific but the tackle was not that bad. there have been tackles much worse in the prem this season just that they have not been highlighted because they have not resulted in a bad injury. no way should he be banned for six months, that is ridiculous. 3 match ban is enough. |
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