Who will get relegated?

Alexander · 01-17-2007, 12:13 AM

In The Premiership, who do you think will go down this season? With the bottom of the Table very tight anyone couls slip up or win matches to stay up or be relegated.

To check the table visit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/table/default.stm

Look at 18th and 7th, there is 13 points between 7th and Relegation zone. Close eh? I think Watford, Charlton and Sheffield Utd will be relegated.

What does everyone else think?

I'd put my house on Watford going down. They don't have the name to attract players where teams like West Ham do, even when in trouble.

I'm actually amazed that Wigan have slipped so low, but I would still fancy them to be clear of that zone come March time. I think it's between Charlton, West Ham and Sheffield United, and I can see West Ham doing well enough in the transfer market (and if they get Ashton back and scoring) to pull above Sheffield.

So Sheffield United, Charlton and Watford.

Paulb · 01-17-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander

In The Premiership, who do you think will go down this season? With the bottom of the Table very tight anyone couls slip up or win matches to stay up or be relegated.

To check the table visit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/table/default.stm

Look at 18th and 7th, there is 13 points between 7th and Relegation zone. Close eh? I think Watford, Charlton and Sheffield Utd will be relegated.

What does everyone else think?

I'd put my house on Watford going down. They don't have the name to attract players where teams like West Ham do, even when in trouble.

I'm actually amazed that Wigan have slipped so low, but I would still fancy them to be clear of that zone come March time. I think it's between Charlton, West Ham and Sheffield United, and I can see West Ham doing well enough in the transfer market (and if they get Ashton back and scoring) to pull above Sheffield.

So Sheffield United, Charlton and Watford.

Watford definatly. I think Sheffield United to as they don't score many goals. Pretty sure all their victories have been one nil and i think Horsefield may be on the move so losing their top scorer isn't going to help any. I think Charlton will go down coz they've got the worst defensive record in the Premiership. West Ham should stay up as they appear to be hitting some form but their defense is pretty poor. Wigan have got enough firepower to stay up. West Ham and Wigan also have the cash to bring in players and i don't think the other clubs have.

soyaman · 01-17-2007, 10:59 PM

Arsenal No Doubt About That

goldenHuddlestone · 01-17-2007, 11:40 PM

Watford
Charlton
Wigan

nobby the blade · 01-18-2007, 09:50 PM

Can't get my breath, it's oreight asking the question on who'll go down but some of the answers are child like, unresearched, utter garbage.

I quote Paul B, he says that the Blades are to sell top scorer Horsfield, the truth is that Horsfield has never played for the Blades, never mind scored, Hulse is the top scorer and playing magnificent.
He says the Blades have no money, well up to today they have signed no less than 5 players in the transfer window, John Stead for £750,000 rising to £1.25m if we don't go down which is an absolute snip, we've signed the best defender outside the premiership in Mat Killgallon from leeds for £1.75m rising to £2.25m. Signed Jamaican international striker Luton Shelton from Helsinborgs for £2m, signed Mahamood Sek who is a Senagalese international defender from french club, on bosman free, signed Egyptian international midfielder Fahti from egyptian club, age 22, 40 caps already.
Furthermore the Blades have done most of that with the proceeds of incoming transfer fees having sold/let go 4 players for over £2.5m, and yet to encroach on the £7m that Neil still has to spend.

So the Blades to go down I don't think so, they'll finish about 14th, the 3 to go down will be watford-charlton-wigan or perhaps one from boro-man city- or fulham-or westham.

Paulb · 01-19-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nobby the blade

I quote Paul B, he says that the Blades are to sell top scorer Horsfield, the truth is that Horsfield has never played for the Blades, never mind scored, Hulse is the top scorer and playing magnificent.
He says the Blades have no money, well up to today they have signed no less than 5 players in the transfer window, John Stead for £750,000 rising to £1.25m if we don't go down which is an absolute snip, we've signed the best defender outside the premiership in Mat Killgallon from leeds for £1.75m rising to £2.25m. Signed Jamaican international striker Luton Shelton from Helsinborgs for £2m, signed Mahamood Sek who is a Senagalese international defender from french club, on bosman free, signed Egyptian international midfielder Fahti from egyptian club, age 22, 40 caps already.
Furthermore the Blades have done most of that with the proceeds of incoming transfer fees having sold/let go 4 players for over £2.5m, and yet to encroach on the £7m that Neil still has to spend.

Apologies over the Horsefield/Hulse gaff. Got the wrong former player. As for everything else i wrote i think its pretty fair. Compared to West Ham (4m bid for Upson rejected. 9.25m bid for Young rejected. Davenport undisclosed fee) Sheffield United don't have as much cash. The buys you have listed above are mostly investment in the future. Killgallon was a really good buy especially for the price and can play at Premiership level but i'm not sure about the rest. I never said Blades didn't have any money, and there's more to buying players than just their transfer fees. Wages are a big issue in any transfer and i didn't think that Sheffield United, Charlton and Watford had the wage budget. As for being unresearched utter garbage, you're probably right. But since i'm writing an opinion not an newspaper article i'm not required to be factually accurate. In fact i thought we were having a discussion, and your response to my post, in my opinion has encouraged some debate about the issue. I stand corrected (again).

goldenHuddlestone · 01-19-2007, 08:43 PM

Thats because WH are owned by a millionaire and Sheffield United are not.

adamlfc · 01-20-2007, 12:21 AM

charlton
west ham maybe
watford

Paulb · 01-20-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by goldenHuddlestone

Thats because WH are owned by a millionaire and Sheffield United are not.

It doesn't invalidate my point though. Sheffield United really could do with a good striker as if they can start scoring more goals then they could avoid the drop. But with a good striker, like Nugent for example, comes a high transfer fee and probably high wages too. I don't think Sheffield United have the cash to do that? I know they had a 6m bid rejected for Nugent but are they still in a position to pay that kind of money? Would his wages cause them problems? Maybe Nobby the Blademan can shed some light on that. Sheffield could very well stay up, Killgallon is a good signing not sure Stead is as his form for the last couple of seasons hasn't been great (2 goals in 39 appearances) and i get the feeling that if there were good things to come from him Keane would've held onto him. As for the other signings i don't really know enough about them to change my opinion of Sheffields fate. Hopefully Nobby the Blademan will reply and help me out.

goldenHuddlestone · 01-20-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulb

It doesn't invalidate my point though. Sheffield United really could do with a good striker as if they can start scoring more goals then they could avoid the drop. But with a good striker, like Nugent for example, comes a high transfer fee and probably high wages too. I don't think Sheffield United have the cash to do that? I know they had a 6m bid rejected for Nugent but are they still in a position to pay that kind of money? Would his wages cause them problems? Maybe Nobby the Blademan can shed some light on that. Sheffield could very well stay up, Killgallon is a good signing not sure Stead is as his form for the last couple of seasons hasn't been great (2 goals in 39 appearances) and i get the feeling that if there were good things to come from him Keane would've held onto him. As for the other signings i don't really know enough about them to change my opinion of Sheffields fate. Hopefully Nobby the Blademan will reply and help me out.

It does make your point valid because you were comparing the deals that WH have been making to that which Sheffield United have been comparing and, at the moment, they are two very different football clubs in financially.

Matt the Thrasher · 01-20-2007, 12:42 PM

West Ham
Charlton
Watford

West Ham do have money to spend but seem to be having trouble attracting any decent players and time is running out so do they start panic buying or stick with what they have now, either way I think we are doomed.
If you look at the statistics they are frightening old Watford have scored less goals than us ( and they've played 2 less games) only Charlton have conceded more our goal difference is appauling and it seems we can't buy a win right now.
I fully expect us to get thrashed at ST James' today even more so after Newcastle's embarrasement during the week.

Paulb · 01-20-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt the Thrasher

West Ham
Charlton
Watford

West Ham do have money to spend but seem to be having trouble attracting any decent players and time is running out so do they start panic buying or stick with what they have now, either way I think we are doomed.
If you look at the statistics they are frightening old Watford have scored less goals than us ( and they've played 2 less games) only Charlton have conceded more our goal difference is appauling and it seems we can't buy a win right now.
I fully expect us to get thrashed at ST James' today even more so after Newcastle's embarrasement during the week.

You were unlucky against Fulham. Had it not been for Zamora getting himself stupidly sent off you could've got all 3 points. At least you're scoring goals now. You've winning more at home than any other of the bottom 5 but your away form is awful. Just seen you've only scored 2 goals away and haven't won. If you can turn that round you'll be ok.

Matt the Thrasher · 01-20-2007, 08:00 PM

It's good to see we finaly started scoring some goals but it won't do us anygood if we can't stop conceeding, thats the second week running we have thrown away a lead and they are saying we were unlucky but you can't just put it down to luck, I don't see us winning a match any time soon.

lfcmad · 01-20-2007, 10:25 PM

Wigan
Charlton
Watford

Professor Ludwig Mawson · 01-21-2007, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by goldenHuddlestone

Watford
Charlton
Wigan

Never, Wigan have proven themselves to be a good team and with their key striker Henri Camara one of the best finishers in the league

Paulb · 01-21-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt the Thrasher

It's good to see we finaly started scoring some goals but it won't do us anygood if we can't stop conceeding, thats the second week running we have thrown away a lead and they are saying we were unlucky but you can't just put it down to luck, I don't see us winning a match any time soon.

Lot of the pundits were critizing Davenport's signing so it must of been pleasing to see him involved in getting the ball in the back of the net twice(even if one was disallowed). Don't think you were unlucky this week just think a bad decision by the ref allowed Newcastle back in. If you can secure Neill as has been reported, it will improve your chances of staying up. You're scoring goals now 5 in 2 i think and since Sheffield United, Charlton and Watford are not that could be the key to your survival. Doesn't matter if you conceed 2 as long as you score 3.

gunnerdapper · 01-22-2007, 06:33 PM

Watford
charlton
westham or sheff utd

goldenHuddlestone · 01-22-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulb

Lot of the pundits were critizing Davenport's signing so it must of been pleasing to see him involved in getting the ball in the back of the net twice(even if one was disallowed). Don't think you were unlucky this week just think a bad decision by the ref allowed Newcastle back in. If you can secure Neill as has been reported, it will improve your chances of staying up. You're scoring goals now 5 in 2 i think and since Sheffield United, Charlton and Watford are not that could be the key to your survival. Doesn't matter if you conceed 2 as long as you score 3.

I was sorry to see Davenport go he was a good player and would of been a regular starter if it was not for the fact we already had two fo the best CB's in the Prem.

Matt the Thrasher · 01-22-2007, 06:53 PM

But do you think he can really cut it in the prem after all he has spent most of his time as a spurs player on loan to championship teams.

goldenHuddlestone · 01-22-2007, 07:35 PM

Definitley, deputising for King in his last few games for Spurs he played a couple of blindrs.

Maf · 01-22-2007, 09:14 PM

Sheffield United
Charlton
Watford

Paulb · 01-23-2007, 12:42 PM

Any chance of Nobby the Blademan posting why he thinks Sheffield United will stay up? It was fair enough getting on my case about the Horsefield/Hulse gaff but he didn't answer the original post and i'm genuinely intrested in knowing why he thinks they'll stay up? Anybody else out there think Sheffield United will stay up? If so why please?

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Alexander First Team Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 70 vCash: 500	Who will get relegated? In The Premiership, who do you think will go down this season? With the bottom of the Table very tight anyone couls slip up or win matches to stay up or be relegated. To check the table visit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/table/default.stm Look at 18th and 7th, there is 13 points between 7th and Relegation zone. Close eh? I think Watford, Charlton and Sheffield Utd will be relegated. What does everyone else think? I'd put my house on Watford going down. They don't have the name to attract players where teams like West Ham do, even when in trouble. I'm actually amazed that Wigan have slipped so low, but I would still fancy them to be clear of that zone come March time. I think it's between Charlton, West Ham and Sheffield United, and I can see West Ham doing well enough in the transfer market (and if they get Ashton back and scoring) to pull above Sheffield. So Sheffield United, Charlton and Watford. “God gives gifts to everyone, ... Some can write, some can dance. He gave me the skill to play football and I am making the most of it.” -Ronaldinho

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Matt the Thrasher Admin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Figueira da Foz ,Portugal Posts: 3,242 vCash: 379	West Ham Charlton Watford West Ham do have money to spend but seem to be having trouble attracting any decent players and time is running out so do they start panic buying or stick with what they have now, either way I think we are doomed. If you look at the statistics they are frightening old Watford have scored less goals than us ( and they've played 2 less games) only Charlton have conceded more our goal difference is appauling and it seems we can't buy a win right now. I fully expect us to get thrashed at ST James' today even more so after Newcastle's embarrasement during the week. The boys of NYPD choir still singing Galway Bay.

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Matt the Thrasher Admin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Figueira da Foz ,Portugal Posts: 3,242 vCash: 379	It's good to see we finaly started scoring some goals but it won't do us anygood if we can't stop conceeding, thats the second week running we have thrown away a lead and they are saying we were unlucky but you can't just put it down to luck, I don't see us winning a match any time soon. The boys of NYPD choir still singing Galway Bay.

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nobby the blade what a blademan!!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 72 vCash: 500	Can't get my breath, it's oreight asking the question on who'll go down but some of the answers are child like, unresearched, utter garbage. I quote Paul B, he says that the Blades are to sell top scorer Horsfield, the truth is that Horsfield has never played for the Blades, never mind scored, Hulse is the top scorer and playing magnificent. He says the Blades have no money, well up to today they have signed no less than 5 players in the transfer window, John Stead for £750,000 rising to £1.25m if we don't go down which is an absolute snip, we've signed the best defender outside the premiership in Mat Killgallon from leeds for £1.75m rising to £2.25m. Signed Jamaican international striker Luton Shelton from Helsinborgs for £2m, signed Mahamood Sek who is a Senagalese international defender from french club, on bosman free, signed Egyptian international midfielder Fahti from egyptian club, age 22, 40 caps already. Furthermore the Blades have done most of that with the proceeds of incoming transfer fees having sold/let go 4 players for over £2.5m, and yet to encroach on the £7m that Neil still has to spend. So the Blades to go down I don't think so, they'll finish about 14th, the 3 to go down will be watford-charlton-wigan or perhaps one from boro-man city- or fulham-or westham.

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Paulb Baggies Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Worcester Posts: 199 vCash: 500	Any chance of Nobby the Blademan posting why he thinks Sheffield United will stay up? It was fair enough getting on my case about the Horsefield/Hulse gaff but he didn't answer the original post and i'm genuinely intrested in knowing why he thinks they'll stay up? Anybody else out there think Sheffield United will stay up? If so why please?